Going To Cars And Coffee Is Only Worth It If You Get To Drive The New Tesla Model X

"Torque Affair" (torqueaffair)
02/26/2016 at 07:50 • Filed to: tesla, model-x

Cars and Coffee is typically so boring that going there just to look at cars quickly loses its appeal after about thirty seconds of hanging around a parking lot where you can admire ten of the exact same Audi S4s only so much. If something you never see—like a McLaren P1—isn’t at the event, there’s not much of a reason to stick around.

But with this month’s Cars and Coffee, I had a compelling reason to go. That’s because, before heading out to Cars and Coffee, I was going over to Matt’s house to check out his brand new Tesla Model X.

I recently ran into a friend who told me about !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and his newly obtained Telsa Model X. But Matt’s Model X wasn’t even a regular one—as if such a thing could exist. It happened to be an exclusive version of an exclusive Model X: a founder’s edition to be precise.

You might be wondering how anyone could possibly get a hold of a limited founder’s edition: who does Matt have to know to be able to get one? Bill Gates? Oprah? Or— is Matt Elon Musk’s brother?

It turns out that, although, Matt didn’t have to know anyone special, he did have to pull off something pretty spectacular. You see, there was a referral program going on a while ago, where if you could get 10 people to buy a Tesla Model S within three months, you would be able to get your hands on a fully loaded founder’s edition model X discounted by almost $40,000. Matt managed to convince not just ten, but 12 people to buy one which equates to selling a million dollars worth of cars in three months! And because of that, he is now the proud owner of a fully loaded Model X that he obtained at a discounted price of only about $100,000.

Hey, how come I didn’t know about this? I would’ve totally… wait a minute . Not only do I not know 10 people (I know two), a $40K discount wouldn’t mean much to me because that means I would still have to spend $100K that I don’t have on a car!

Matt’s Model X is one of the first ones I’ve seen in Austin and when you first lay eyes on the vehicle, it essentially looks like a pumped up, bigger version of the Model S. But then you have a “No way, that’s so cool” moment as soon as the massive rear falcon doors dramatically lift up towards the sky. Watch the video below to see it in action.

The Model X comes with a Model S-shaped remote that has a bunch of buttons that after double-clicking open up all kinds of doors on the car. Then something interesting happens. If you have the front door open and walk away from the vehicle with the remote on you, the door shuts automatically. There is no lock or unlock button on the remote; all that happens by itself depending on how close the remote is to the car.

Once you’re in the car, there’s no start button. You just hit the accelerator to start moving. As long as the remote is nearby, the car is operational which begs the question: what happens if you lose the remote? There is no mechanical way to enter into the vehicle, as far as I could tell, so I suppose your only option is to call Elon Musk who will then send you his helicopter to pick you up. You have the “founder’s” edition so naturally he should provide you with 24/7 personal roadside assistance.

Inside the car you’ll find a huge vertical screen, similar to what’s in the Model S, but even bigger. There are no physical buttons and everything is controlled through the touch screen which works remarkably well and is super responsive. Playing around on that thing feels like interacting with a giant iPad that controls most of the Model X’s features and functionality. The first thing I wanted to do, of course, was to test the Model X’s web browsing capabilities by immediately going to !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

After that, I got settled in with my popcorn to watch cats attacking alligators by loading YouTube on a screen that’s bigger than my monitor at home. Unfortunately, it turns out that Tesla has disabled playing YouTube videos in the car which is probably a good thing for now. I’m sure they will be re-enabled once the Model X is fully autonomous. Then I can finally sit back, eat my Wendy’s cheeseburger, slurp my supersize drink and watch Trump build a wall as the Model X drives me towards Canada.

On the gigantic iPad, there are so many things you can do like open the rear Falcon doors, warm the rear seats, time travel, change the ride height, switch the driving mode into ludicrous (which Matt always keeps the X in—all other modes are pointless anyway) and control a variety of operational aspects of the Model X.

Surprisingly to open the front doors you still need to pull on a latch— wait, what? After virtually eliminating all vestiges of manual labor and leaving everything to a simple touch, Tesla expects me to manually open the door?

The front windshield is kind of panoramic but not fully because it ends right above your head. Because the rear Falcon doors need to lift straight up, the entire roof couldn’t be made of glass. But that was fine with me, because making compromises to fit in the rear doors are completely worth it.

The Model X in many ways seems to be a fantasy vehicle that Elon Musk dreamed up. Clearly, he packed it with fun technology which are awesome and unnecessary like having doors flying up instead of opening sideways. I’m sure his engineers were driven to tears and had to leave their families trying to make the doors work properly. Musk is a visionary guy building spaceships and so you can expect his cars to be extraordinary and his employees to be miserable .

Because of all the features and gizmos, the newest Tesla is way out of the price range for the majority of people who need an SUV like this. The Model X can only be a reality for people who have the kind of money to spend on a vehicle that is designed to make a statement about the future of the automotive industry—something that I’m sure is adored by Silicon Valley billionaires.

As Matt and I got ready to head out to Cars and Coffee, I sat there smugly feeling like a Silicon Valley billionaire, with only a billionth of their net worth. On the drive over to the event, the Model X got tons of appreciative glances from folks on the road, with the most joyful and loving looks given to us by a family in a BMW i3.

Once we arrived at Cars and Coffee, the Model X was a hit. People immediately started walking over, ogling this new Tesla creation. Adults and kids alike were fascinated with the vehicle. Matt allowed all kinds of folks to sit inside and touch things. Everyone loved touching the Tesla. People squeezed themselves into the 3rd row seats, took selfies, and played with as much stuff as they could. There was a point where it got a bit ridiculous because the Model X wasn’t a dealer model but people were treating it as such. Eventually, we got tired of everyone and left in the Model X that now contained the fingerprints of a thousand people.

On the way back from Cars and Coffee, I got a chance to get behind the wheel of the Model X. It was silky smooth, ultra luxurious and super quiet. The materials, fit and finish were outstanding and exactly what you would expect in a high-end, high performance SUV. You do realize right away, though, that the SUV is a big vehicle and so you’re not inspired to throw it around turns even though it could probably handle them much better than other SUVs of the same size due to its unique low center of gravity.

While you’re driving, you can’t help but slam the accelerator pedal down as often as you can. It hits 60 mph in 3.2 seconds and even in the rain, the 6000 lb Model X moved faster than any other SUV we have in existence. The traction control works so well that I wanted to accelerate at every opportunity and somehow the tires managed to stick and propel us forward on slippery roads.

With each pedal-mashing session, the SUV lurched forward with 700+ lb-ft of instant torque with everyone in the car getting pinned to their seats like in a roller coaster. During the intense acceleration, all you hear a muffled whirring of the motors.

This was my first time to experience Tesla’s autopilot and although not perfect, was a cool thing to experience. In a straight line, the Tesla had no problems reading the lane markers and staying within a lane, using ultrasonic sensors to detect other cars. When taking sweeping turns, the steering was a bit jerky and lacked smoothness although I’m sure improvements will come with future software updates. It’s kind of crazy to think that Tesla can continually improve the autopilot/self-driving features of the car with a simple software update just like on your phone. One simple restart followed by a lock-up followed by two more restarts.

Wonder what a “locked up” Tesla would look like—would a malfunctioning Model X start randomly opening and closing all its doors? Or would it run into your next-door neighbor’s tree?

There is still work to do before the autopilot can recognize red lights and intelligently avoid obstacles on the road so that you can peacefully take a nap. Even still, it’s impressive to think how far this technology has come. Only 8 years ago, Tesla almost didn’t make it when Elon Musk came very close to shutting down either Tesla or SpaceX to keep at least one of the two companies alive. And now this—a futuristic, technological marvel—the Model X.

Besides autopilot, Matt also demonstrated the “ summon ” feature of the Model X. By using your phone, the car can move forwards or backwards and can open or close a garage door. It’s much better to see it in action than to read about it so be sure to check out the video. It was a bit strange to see a vehicle of that size functioning by itself without anyone in it.

I wonder if someone could hack the “summon” feature and turn it into “ attack ” and then use the Tesla to run over things. Imagine roads full of Teslas that have gone berserk, destroying everything in their path. Not a completely implausible scenario.

At $140K for a loaded version, the price is steep, but then again Tesla is a company that is bound and determined to do great things and disrupt the auto industry in a way that’s never been done before. After spending some time in the Model X, Elon Musk’s prediction of having a self-driving car on the road in two years might just be a reality. We are not as far off as I initially thought.

Just like smartphones have changed our lives, in that, we now have permanently curved necks and would rather text than talk to someone standing right in front of us, self-driving cars will allow us to turn into physically useless beings as we continue to shove more fries into our face and leave even more idiotic comments on the internet instead of driving.

I can’t wait to see how it all turns out.

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DISCUSSION (100)

jjhats > Torque Affair
02/26/2016 at 08:09

i hate everything about this car

Berang > Torque Affair
02/26/2016 at 08:13

Kinja'd!!!

I saw that! But then I saw this much more interesting Honda right next to it.

I’ll be honest though, the X is pretty darned cool for a minivan.

Van Man, rocks the Man Van > Torque Affair
02/26/2016 at 08:30

If you go to Cars and Coffee solely for the cars, you're doing it wrong. There are people there too.

DoYouEvenShift > Torque Affair
02/26/2016 at 08:45

Lol, I feel the same way about C&C! Love the X too

The Ghost of Oppo > Torque Affair
02/26/2016 at 09:03

I can’t stand C&C because of the time. At the Northern VA one people start getting there around 6 and some leave before 7. There is no way in hell I am getting up earlier on a Saturday morning than I do on the weekdays just to look at cars.

T off the New > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:25

C&C is always a battle of sleep versus cars, most times sleep wins...

None > Berang
02/27/2016 at 16:25

‘82 Civic wagon; I had the same year hatchback in silver. Bought it brand new after I graduated from college. Loved that car.

None > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:27

If Tesladoes go the dealership route they better hire this guy as their first sales manager.

Sly Jackal > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:28

The model x is so ugly ....

Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:38

Cool vehicle indeed. Futuristic design to follow the futuristic power train. It just does nothing for me.

I need sound. Raw sound. The emotion of an internal combustion engine. Watching the RPMs soar towards redline. All that shit.

scoob > Van Man, rocks the Man Van
02/27/2016 at 16:39

People? What are those? What kind of engines do they have? Are they like bikes?

J-Record > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:40

As an S4 owner (in Austin), I’m glaring menacingly at you.

But alas, I must also agree with you.

Goofnik > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:40

Go to better Cars and Coffees. If you’re nearby, I recommend Caffeine and Carburetors in SW CT. I’ll be going to the May one. To give you an idea of what’s there, there are usually 150-160 Porsches alone. You’ll see things like 1 of 1 Ford GT convertibles. Aston Martin DBR2 race cars. Lancia Stratoses. Concours quality Saab Sonetts. Audi Quattros. Fully restored FJs and Broncos. Properly imported TVRs. Dozens and dozens of Ferraris. 1000+ cars, with hundreds of genuine head-turners.

La Mia Ferrari > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:47

Yeah, a bloated and completely silent electric crossover is exactly why I go to cars & coffee events. Just like how that minivan covered in morning dew that was parked and left in the middle of the lot the night before is another star of the show.

ICantStandNewJalopnik > jjhats
02/27/2016 at 16:52

Model Smug. My neighbor was pressuring me so hard to get a Model S. He’d send me emails, Tesla discounts... now I know why. He doesn’t understand it when I tell him “I track my cars.” He’s like, well the Model S is really fast! You can get one with Insane Mode, or whatever. I’m like, “Great. I don’t drag race people on city streets, but thanks anyway.”

Humberto Yi > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:58

I went to cars and coffee to see another CUV....yup...fucking thrills

Thedude > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 16:59

I’ve seen a few of these things on the road in my area (I work near the plant), and honestly have to say they are incredibly boring to look at, much as I’ve come to feel about the model S. They look like a Porsche Cayenne with much of the styling stripped away. Their marketing photographers managed to give the vehicles style that really isn’t there when you see them in person (or en mass).

will_kern > Berang
02/27/2016 at 17:03

Now we just need to find out who owns the Honda...

Torque Affair > J-Record
02/27/2016 at 17:06

hahah...hey I had to pick “a” model - sorry, that just came to mind although I do love the S4s.

Torque Affair > Thedude
02/27/2016 at 17:08

Yeah, not the best looking, but a pretty cool vehicle nonetheless.

shitheelandtoe > The Ghost of Oppo
02/27/2016 at 17:09

You mean the one at Katie’s in McLean? I’ve never been. I would think NoVa would have some pretty outlandish cars. Is it worth getting up early just once?

Torque Affair > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
02/27/2016 at 17:09

haha, yeah I hear ya.

Audistein > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:15

Are you sure the front doors only open manually? I thought the Model X had “auto presenting” front doors that open electronically as well as the rear falcon wings. I think that’s the coolest feature on the Model X, because it’s something that’s been possible for years but not even Rolls has thought to have it be automatic.

If the Model S gets those front doors I’d seriously consider one just for that (and autopilot).

abrickinthewall > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:22

Kinja'd!!!

mythrenegade > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:24

Cars and Coffee is NOT boring.

Car guy card revoked!

Carlos wishes he has a manual > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:26

“ Then I can finally sit back, eat my Wendy’s cheeseburger, slurp my supersize drink and watch Trump build a wall as the Model X drives me towards Canada.”

hahaha! I loved this part! but I assume anyone who as enough money to afford this car are not subject to Trump’s inevitable tyranny.

loracks > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:28

I randomly saw a Model X in Charleston, SC around Christmas 2015. It actually stopped me dead in my tracks, because I immediately wondered what kind of crazy hoops the owner must have jumped through to get it, considering they only delivered 208 of them in Q4 2015.

My girlfriend just looked at me like I was crazy when I exclaimed dumbstruck, “DID YOU SEE THAT MODEL X?!”

AlanJustAlan > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:36

I have no idea what Cars and Coffe you go to, but honestly you should just resign as a car guy right now. Anyone, ANYONE who is bored at any C&C event i’ve ever been to is simply not interested in cars. Dude, check out the backlot full of old italian Fiats, the ocasional Can-Am, the 195X power wagon. If you can’t get excited about a driver Europa or an Opel GT there’s really something wrong with you. 1958 beetle 6v? check, any late 60s Saab with an air suspension? check!

Check your pulse my man, and go write for another publication.....!

BruceS85 > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:38

I’m sorry you find your local Cars & Coffee boring. I have not found that to be the case in Richmond, VA, or at Caffeine & Octane in Atlanta. As with most things, you get out of them what you put into them. Maybe you go to take, rather than contribute? I have found that, even on days when the cars seem to be the same old same old, the people are great to talk with. Could it be that you’re not as much of a car person as you once thought?

That said, it would be great to see a Tesla X. But after the new wears off, then what? Oh, yeah, the people …

Jon > Berang
02/27/2016 at 17:42

How is it a minivan? it doesnt have sliding doors and it is higher off the ground

Jon > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
02/27/2016 at 17:53

Im the opposite i have to turn the radio up to elimate the engine sound. I also drive an older diesel truck lol

Torque Affair > loracks
02/27/2016 at 17:54

could’ve been a founder’s edition!

Pharaoh of Aero > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 17:57

I actually love cars and coffee. I go regularly when the weather is nice because the drive there is great, I actually do get to see exotic cars, and the coffee shop it’s held at is freaking fantastic. But other than that the crowd is meh.

Torque Affair > BruceS85
02/27/2016 at 17:58

I’d rather drive the cars...or at least watch them be driven by participating in a driving event. That’s way more fun.

BruceS85 > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 18:03

Driving them is fun, for sure. But the people are great, if you’ll give them a chance. And you never know what you might learn. There’s probably at least one good article waiting for you at C&C, if you’ll talk to some folks.

Thedude > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 18:10

Absolutely. Someone around the corner from where I live has one (not the least bit surprising, one of those households that *has* to have the latest and greatest), was amusing looking over at their garage while driving home last night, seeing the gullwing doors opened up *juuuust* barely enough to get out and not making contact with the walls / ceiling / mountains of stuff they have.

Torque Affair > BruceS85
02/27/2016 at 18:16

No, totally...I agree. I’ve met some awesome people at C&C and talked about some of their cars on my site.

Torque Affair > Goofnik
02/27/2016 at 18:17

Agreed! The Austin one can be hit or miss, but I went to one in Dallas and it was insane. It was cold and drizzling and there were still at least a couple thousand cars there.

TriggerTX > BruceS85
02/27/2016 at 18:26

Yeah, his local C&C is sooooo boring. ;) Last month there was only a single P1.

Kinja'd!!!

And a GT-40, and a pile of Lambos, Porsche GT3 RS, DeTamaso Pantera, a sweet Volvo 122, Bentleys, McLarens, classics, etc. Of course, there is always dozens of Corvettes, that does get old.

Kinja'd!!!

I’m just lucky that it’s only a couple miles from the house over beautiful backroads. Fire up the ‘61 Thunderbird on Sunday and go hang out for an hour before wandering off to get brunch.

Berang > will_kern
02/27/2016 at 18:27

Santa Claus from Home Alone does.

Berang > Jon
02/27/2016 at 18:28

It’s definitely more minivan than SUV.

Cyclone > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 18:43

I always have a great time at Charotte Cars and Coffee. Great people and good experiences even if some cars are there often. I wonder if Austin just is more hit-or-miss.

Btw, the Model X key isn’t the same as an S key. Like the X itself, it’s taller and (to a degree) looks like a bloated S. It is also Bluetooth LE enabled. As for getting in and driving the car, you can do that using the Tesla smartphone app (assuming you remember or can obtain your account password that you set up).

VirgilMungo > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 18:46

I’m interested in the Model X but not so interested in promoting Matt.

mfennell > BruceS85
02/27/2016 at 18:53

This. I go to catch up with my friends and I love unique stuff. Our kids play together. There’s always something interesting, even in our little 40ish car group. “Interesting” does not mean “million dollar fantasy car” to us. Someone brought a cherry Alfa Milano last time that was fun to check out. Another guy brought his latest random acquisition - an older Merc diesel of all things.

loracks > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 18:53

I feel like that’s pretty likely. Were the decals on the one you drove added by the owner? Or did it come customized from the factory like that?

P50GT > BruceS85
02/27/2016 at 18:55

So much this! The author clearly doesn’t understand C & C. The people that go to them to show off and “see cool stuff” are the same crowd that try to do burnouts on the way out and crash. C & C is about meeting up with like minded people to talk about cars, show changes you’ve made to yours, learn how to troubleshoot issues and just enjoy being around car culture. I went to a C & C almost every weekend last Spring until the end of the year and while I definitely got jaded by the cars I was seeing, not once was I bored. It definitely sounds like someone who is going to free events expecting something without contributing anything. Also sounds like he is going to lame events as well because I have been to plenty in TX that were anything but boring and everyone in the Bay Area is packed full of amazing cars as you can see by browsing through my photos, C & C and other photos . I see Model X on a daily basis, so they would be the least exciting thing at a C & C.

Jon > Berang
02/27/2016 at 19:03

I doesn’t have anything in common other then 3 row seating. A mini van has to have a sliding door(s)

Berang > Jon
02/27/2016 at 19:15

Then I guess it’s just a van.

highplainsdrifter > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 19:21

People fucking love Teslas! At the Toronto auto show they had a Model S in the same room/area as a McLaren F1 GTR and I couldn’t get close to even looking at the Teslas but spent abut 10 mins alone with the GTR. They gotta sell an affordable one, everybody wants oLA Tesla.

Jon > Berang
02/27/2016 at 19:40

A van usally is taller, more rectangular and has swinging rear doors like a ford transit, gmc Savannah, promaster. This looks closer to that porshe suv. I think the term mini van is being used to be derogatory more then what the actually class is.

Maxxuman > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 19:45

Made for vertical video

Kinja'd!!!

Maxxuman > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 19:46

"Once you’re in the car, there’s no start button. You just hit the accelerator to start moving. As long as the remote is nearby, the car is operational which begs the question: what happens if you lose the remote?"

It could also be disastrous if you let your kid see what it's like in the driver's seat and he/she hits the accelerator.

StrokedAndBlown > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 19:51

The tesla X is a gay minivan. You are a gay minivan, too.

Berang > Jon
02/27/2016 at 20:08

Do you not like minivans?

Plus there are lots of vans much smaller than the X:

Kinja'd!!!

(note: no sliding doors - but still a van)

Jon > Berang
02/27/2016 at 20:21

That doesn’t look anything like the model x. The ford transit connect is a similar size to the picture. That is a van but not a mini van.

Jon > Berang
02/27/2016 at 20:24

Kinja'd!!!

Do you consider these a van or a mini van?

TequilaSqueela > Berang
02/27/2016 at 21:01

Holy shit I had the same experience. I was staring at the Model X and I thought the interior was nice, but I saw the civic through the interior and walked right on over there. You can also see the STUNNING MG in the back left of that picture and there was a 2CV with a sweet custom interior right next to it.

Lame, this Cars and Coffee was not.

StayPutReachJump > Maxxuman
02/27/2016 at 21:06

Its not entirely accurate. It should read as follows: “Once you’re in the car, there’s no start button. You just step on the brake pedal, put it in gear (reverse or drive) and then hit the accelerator. As long as the remote is nearby, the car is operational, which begs the question: what happens if you lose the remote?”

And to answer the question, if you lose the remote, you can still access and drive the car via the app on your mobile device.

nic > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 21:08

Kinja'd!!!

you could be surprised!

StayPutReachJump > Audistein
02/27/2016 at 21:09

I think he means when you arrive at your destination and want to get out, you have to pull the interior door lever to open the door. The Model X currently has no way of reading a person’s mind to determine if they’re just stopping, or if they actually want to get out of the car.

TequilaSqueela > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 21:11

Sure, there were a lot of the same car:

https://goo.gl/photos/FP6Zya8…

But there were also some pretty sweet cars:

https://goo.gl/photos/PPpi8n9…

https://goo.gl/photos/6wwJVer…

https://goo.gl/photos/dun7pBm…

https://goo.gl/photos/hcqxM8u…

https://goo.gl/photos/brnxPBn…

Oh, and there was also your Model X:

https://goo.gl/photos/aR8a3ss…

I wish I got pictures of the sweet ass Civic next to it that is further in the comments. Too bad I can’t figure out how to embed images.

BruceS85 > mfennell
02/27/2016 at 21:14

I like seeing supercars as much as anyone. But even more, I like seeing cars so rare I thought I’d never see one in my lifetime, or a car I’ve never heard of. How about a Triumph Italia 2000 Coupé, or a Qvale? But the people really are the best aspect. Someone who has a soft spot for some POS car, or loves ‘60s Mustangs so much, he has bought and sold 200 or so in his 40 years. The stories are great.

BruceS85 > P50GT
02/27/2016 at 21:19

One thing I like is that it doesn’t matter if you’re a multimillionaire or a guy just barely making it. If you love cars, you love cars, and that’s what matters. Seeing families there, introducing their kids to the joy of cars makes me happy. Listening in on a dad telling his kid all about some car he thinks is great, and the kid saying, “That’s cool, dad!”

Thanks for sharing your photos, P50GT!

wtrmlnjuc > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
02/27/2016 at 21:36

I view electric cars differently than ICE. ICE is great when there’s sound, the feeling of raw power, and all that good stuff we already know.

As for electric, the more spaceship or TRON feeling, the better. There’s something cool about the soft but powerful whirrrrrrrr of a motor.

300hp30mpgrwdfor30k > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 21:45

I like how thin the seats are

Berang > Jon
02/27/2016 at 21:56

Have you seen the X in person? It is a minivan. It is shaped like a minivan, it is sized like a minivan, it looks like a minivan - if it’s not a minivan, it’s as close as something can be to a minivan without being a minivan.

Cowpieapex > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
02/27/2016 at 22:28

That’s why so many people buy Harleys.

RichH1 > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 22:34

I might have been convinced about the boringness of said cars and coffee if I wasn’t overcome by the boringness of the super long article. The length is about as appealing as a 7th grade runon sentence.

J-Record > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 22:34

I love it too, but sure wish it had the nice features of the Tesla cars!

Neutral President > Torque Affair
02/27/2016 at 22:57

Matt needs to be retract the rear wing.

D-Livs > Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru
02/27/2016 at 23:48

Just wait till you drive one... ;-)

D-Livs > Jon
02/27/2016 at 23:53

Some people have a hard time seeing past antiquated notions of genre boundaries.

Powershiftmedia-ResidentDSMGuru > D-Livs
02/28/2016 at 00:40

Hey, given the opportunity, I'd hoon the shit out of it lol

Wonderwhy > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 01:12

So how does the fat pig drive

dubgasm > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 01:32

The Austin one is hit or miss literally. The subi dudes always seem to fuck around

Inline6-to-midnight > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 02:16

I like cars and coffees as an antidote to the side effects of tech that you rightfully point out that the end of your article. So, not boring! Anyways say an X in the old meat packing district in Chicago last week, sitting in valet where it belongs.

46and2aheadofme > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 02:28

The Tesla X belongs at appliances and coffee.

LongbowMkII > D-Livs
02/28/2016 at 05:44

I wasn't aware car classification went post-modern. It's a minivan.

Jon > Berang
02/28/2016 at 06:21

I have seen it on the road .It looks and is shaped like a cuv/suv just like the photos i posted.Looks nothing like the mini van it is next to

Kinja'd!!!

MotorcycleRider > BruceS85
02/28/2016 at 08:32

Where’s a good cars and coffee in Richmond?

Jon > Berang
02/28/2016 at 08:56

Kinja'd!!!

I dont see mini van from any angle.

BruceS85 > MotorcycleRider
02/28/2016 at 09:02

Every other Saturday at Regency Square Mall, 8:00-10:00 AM. Next one is 3/12/16. Visit carsandcoffeerichmond.com to keep up. Enjoy!

Berang > Jon
02/28/2016 at 09:13

It’s nearly identical in exterior dimensions to a Honda Odyssey, or really most any other minivan. The gullwing doors are just a more novel/less practical way to provide the benefits of sliding doors. The only un-minivan-like feature is the rear end styling, but otherwise in terms of dimensions, utility, seating, etc. it is a minivan.

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itranthelasttimeiparkedit > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 09:23

I can bring my hooptyass e30 to the next one for you to drive if you want. But you have to sign a waiver first, taking your life into your hands and all that

edit: also I keep forgetting to go, when is the next one?

Jon > Berang
02/28/2016 at 09:25

It also has the same dimensions as l many suv/cuv vehicles. I can put a bunch of boxes in a suv the same way also. The roof on a mini van goes back further so slinding door rails can fit.

Z4M > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 09:32

Why is it cool? It's a fast go kart that looks like a Pontiac aztek.

Z4M > Jon
02/28/2016 at 09:33

It looks more like a mini van than an suv.

BackfiringDatsun > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 09:43

Porsche 918 and an F40 at the Bakersfield cars and coffee yesterday. Made my whole weekend. Particularly the F40 I got to touch the carbon fiber tub and chat with the super nice owner. I’m so used to them being behind the ropes at the Ghetti, not being driven in my home town.

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Also a host of other neat cars. An Ariel Atom, McLaren 570s, a crazy clean Datsun 510, more mid range Ferraris than you could shake an Italian sausage scented stick at and strangers to talk to about cars.

I am smitten with cars and coffee.

Driving. The model X woulda made it that much better. I did drive my lead there and shamefully park it out of sight. That’s almost the same isn’t it?

Jon > Z4M
02/28/2016 at 09:52

Then post a picture of a mini van that looks anything close to the model x

Torque Affair > itranthelasttimeiparkedit
02/28/2016 at 12:18

hah, let’s do it! The next one is in March - 2nd Sunday I think?

MyAutomotiveLife > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 12:43

So boring??? You obviously haven't been to a SoCal one...

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 15:43

Wow you are not my kind of car person. The Marin C&C doesn’t gave any new cars, lots of great classics aND a few new unicorns pop up like an LFA one time. Check out our flickr. I never want to ride in that Tesla, I saw the new one on the golden gate the other day and it looks like a boring minivan, for rich people who actually hate cars and are upgrading from a Prius.

itranthelasttimeiparkedit > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 17:19

13th?

TheStigsGermanCousin > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 18:35

So do what I do and meet people and end up being an 18 year old driving a Lamborghini To Cars & Coffee.

Z4M > Jon
02/28/2016 at 19:13

Nice aztek...150k minivans are the new thing apparently.

Kinja'd!!!

And in black with the base trim. Wow it really shows off the horrendous lines.

Kinja'd!!!

Jon > Z4M
02/28/2016 at 19:15

The aztech is a mini van?

tobythesandwich > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 19:56

Eh. They are EVs. Cool. I wasn’t too impressed with the Model S. The Model S & Country isn’t that appealing to me. The idiotic center doors also do little to nothing for me other than make me laugh when these start selling more and the body shop is kept busy by the idiots opening them in low parking garages.

itranthelasttimeiparkedit > Torque Affair
02/28/2016 at 21:37

In all seriousness my e30 is beat to hell though. You’re still welcome to drive it but there are a few major problems currently that I have not had time to fix yet (it was bought as a project car then I had a kid...) I do have multiple other cars though if you have any interest in driving them (I have no qualms about letting strangers drive my cars). 06 550i, e39 540 wagon, and a jeep grand wagoneer.

Torque Affair > itranthelasttimeiparkedit
02/28/2016 at 22:30

sounds like a plan! Yeah, let’s meet up. looks like March 13th it is... https://www.facebook.com/CarsAndCoffeeA…

Torque Affair > TheStigsGermanCousin
02/28/2016 at 22:30

good stuff!